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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:32
The pano stitcher way only works when you're actually stitching a pano - for finished photos it won't work (i.e. I had to stitch all 75 photos again just to apply Little Planet), so in the odd chance the effect is needed but access to the component photos of the pano are unavailable, then this looks to be a viable alternative. I've been meaning to have a crack at producing a portrait with this effect for several years now, so with an easy alternative way of producing an approximation from a single straight image it might help with plotting the full-size, multi-image version.
Good thread, most helpful. Thanks.
Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:41
now share some of your little tricks too when you find some kinky thing like this
Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:10
It might mean another trip up the tree, but the result could be the iconic portrait of her campaign, even if it ends soon. Potential solutions sometimes crop up in the most unexpected way.
Edited by Fred Nirque, 30 December 2012 - 12:10 .
Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:13
Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:25
Getting up that tree takes some planning and some doing, so everything will have to be right beforehand.
Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:25
Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:26
Posted 30 December 2012 - 13:14
I've already sent off the request to Miranda, but it will be a big production/effort involving numerous people and much planning - and the weather....
It's unfortunately not something that can happen in a studio or back yard - I might even have to earn my climbing spurs to do this one.
Posted 30 December 2012 - 13:35
have you tried a circular fisheye?
Posted 30 December 2012 - 20:31
just to show - you dont have to use a landscape image with a sky
Posted 30 December 2012 - 22:06
This work break between Christmas and New Year is when I traditionally sort all my archived work in date order in my external drives, but this is now distracting me, looking for shots which I never thought worked in their original form to see if this can add a different dimension. I know I've come across the technique in the distant past, but had completely forgotten about it. It's ow saved in my Actions folder so hopefully I won't forget it or lose it again. Very handy.
I confess that I nearly bought a circular fisheye a while ago, but reading up on them it became evident that that a good deal of money would have to be spent - the cheaper designs seemed to suffer severe compression distortion around the edges (in other words, accentuated barrel distortion), and to avoid this the cost skyrockets. They're also OK for looking up or ahead, but getting the downward aspect as this technique delivers would be very tricky indeed unless one had a skyhook. Whatever was holding the camera up would have to appear in shot if it touched ground, and that would not be neatly in the retouchable centre of the shot as the tripod/pano head did in the 360º example I posted using both variations of the software technique.
That said, I'd probably buy a circular 4.5mm Samyang for the Fuji X-Pro1 anyway if it is ever released with that mount, given that the full-frame Samyang 8mm is by far the best - and cheapest - full-frame fish I've ever used.
Posted 30 December 2012 - 22:27
I am sorry I am distracting you
Posted 30 December 2012 - 22:43
I guess my inability to comprehend was through the stitcher not presenting the image as a horizontal, rectangular rendition first. I didn't get the relationship between that and the end result, but seeing a similar effect and the rectilinear photograph it started out as turned the light on.
I'm particularly drawn to the potential of portraiture showing the subject's environment without diminishing the subject's presence through size and without undue distortion. This "looking down" aspect from a horizontal shot should work this to advantage well. I'm hoping Miranda wants to have a crack at this as well, but of course I can't coerce her. She has a 60 metre advantage...
Edited by Fred Nirque, 30 December 2012 - 22:45 .
Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:48
perhaps also use some of the images you took previously and run them thru to get an idea of what you need to shoot to get the best set up?
Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:08
I'm looking at various images which might help me at the moment, but rather ominously Miranda has not responded to my email yet so maybe she won't want to do this (although I can't see why not, to be honest). Hopefully she's just run out of power up there, or she's got a whole bunch of new year's revellers gathering on the ground and in the tree at the moment. I'll give it a couple of days to settle down and maybe things will move on OK then. It'll give me some time to play around with the concept as well.
Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:11
Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:24
I am frequently working in polar coordinates, but this is the first time I am using it on a photo. You can actually create new species this way (not as perfect as you two experts Elsa and Fred, but it will do for an amateur. Guess it would have been better if I purchased PS).
Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:52
Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:03
Geomiljo - you learn a couple of things -
make sure you get the two short sides to be as close as possible to one another - if it is a sky and clouds - make sure you have it the same both sides - it helps with the merge
also make sure your horizon is straight - not higher one side than the other side
see the yacht image - I copied the sun flare to the other side of the image BEFORE JOINING IT - so it could blend better
the roadstall (above) - almost a perfect merge - almost no work had to be done
Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:45
I think I'll search my archive to find some clean shots of the ocean to play around with, trying to get that seam look good.
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